Islanded in a Stream of Stars Episode Review and Discussion

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Re: Islanded in a Stream of Stars Episode Review and Discussion

« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2009, 08:24:23 PM »

Is it just me or did I hear Caprica Six say "Heavenly Father?" That's certainly a first in BSG.

I'll keep this short:

Overall impression: I liked it, and either it's the fact that the show is ending, or this truly was a episode that evoked powerful emotions because I had my heart in my throat and teared up several times.

1. Great to see Caprica Six interact with Baltar and the line "you have not changed, but I have" made things clear.
2. A bit disappointing to not see the "original" Cylon colony. That ugly rock that they moved to is very depressing.
3. "You have millions of children". So Tigh was used for the production of the skinjobs literally?
4. I'm was very sympathetic to Boomer this ep. Fantastic acting by Grace Park and her shared projection with Hera was sublime. And Hera is a fantastic little actress!
5. Adama's breakdown was incredible. It's so tough to see the strongest man in the fleet break down like that, but that's what we always loved about BSG, how HUMAN it all is.
6. It is starting to dawn on me that hybrid reproduction is the key not only to the Cylons, but also the humans! See, I always thought the humans didnt need Hera for their race to survive, but after all they ARE only 30,000 left with no home. So the Cylon colony might just be the only hope that BOTH the Cylons and humans will be able to survive. And this indicates to re-starting the cycle with a new race of hybrids.
7. Very touching scene between Lee and Kara.
8. Baltar is a bastard. Very forced speech after the funeral. I cant believe how much the writers of BSG have destroyed one of my favorite character in BSG. I had such high hopes for Baltar in Season 4...
9. Bear's music is amazing. He touched on and re-arranged all of the best pieces. Kara's theme was amazing, the music when Ellen was talking to Tigh was spectacular and the re-arrangement of Two Funerals (my favorite) was just awesome.

There are such high expectations for Daybreak. There are still a million unanswered questions, and my heart rate is at 130 when I watch BSG these days. I truly hope that the Finale is as good as the Cast and Crew have said it is.

I honestly dont know what to expect, but one thing gives me great comfort.

Ronald D. Moore wrote Daybreak...

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Re: Islanded in a Stream of Stars Episode Review and Discussion

« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2009, 11:56:13 PM »

To add to what you have written Adalla, will they ever find a planet to settle on.

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Re: Islanded in a Stream of Stars Episode Review and Discussion

« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2009, 12:07:32 AM »

Here is an episode recap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg8YAvwIwC8

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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2009, 12:47:51 AM »

Knight, that'd be considered a spoiler regarding Zak...


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Re: Islanded in a Stream of Stars Episode Review and Discussion

« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2009, 12:51:15 AM »

Quote from: Adalla on March 09, 2009, 12:47:51 AM

Knight, that'd be considered a spoiler regarding Zak...

Sorry about that, edited out the info regarding Zak.

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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2009, 05:15:57 PM »

Reading bear's blog this week he mentioned that Islanded will have an extended edition on DVD. He said there was a plot where Tyrol was thrown in the brig that was cut. He also said it's hard to write his blogs because he works on bother extended and TV versions of episodes. From the rumblings I've heard from writer intererviews and now Bear it sounds like we will get a number of extended episodes on the DVD.


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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2009, 07:24:13 PM »

i really hope this is true. 5 or 10 more minutes per episode could have helped some of the storyarcs.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2009, 07:28:41 PM »

I might crack and buy a blu-ray player if the rumors about the whole series set are true.


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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2009, 07:32:40 PM »

I hear that.


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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2009, 07:38:32 PM »

OK let’s start out from the opening of the show. We start out with Hera having a dream of vision of Galactica ramming a Baseship well it was on the plot board where the plans are developed anyway. She has been key in a lot of the story lines here and I keyed into that one from the start. Add on to that some of the things we have seen here. Starbuck finally admits she is dead and is starting out fresh. Anders is not the Hybrid for Galactica, and the union between race and religion aboard the ship.
Now let me back this up with some stuff. In TOS the way Cain went out he did a head on attack of 2 Baseships going out in a blaze of glory as only Cain could. Now we have Adama sitting down with Tigh in the end of the show talking about clearing out the civilians, munitions, crew ext and that she has never let them down so she should go out in a blaze of glory. This just after he had melt down number what? He is defiantly unstable. Not to mention his speech to Tigh. He does not plan on having Tigh along for this one, he is planning on a suicide mission and wanted Tigh to know how he really feels about there friendship.
Now on to Anders. He is now the hybrid for Galactica just like in the Baseships. I think this is key to what is going to happen next week. If you noticed while he was plugged in every time he blinked the lights went out, then they fade into the Admirals quarters were they were talking about the importance of Hera. As they were talking the lights flickered just like when Anders was blinking. I really think he was listening to there conversation and knows what needs to be done. I also think he heard the conversation Adama and Tigh were having. I also thought it was interesting that he called Starbuck the harbinger of death. Now this is 3 different hybrids calling her that this time it is her husband. That must hit her real hard. Now more on Anders being the hybrid for Galactica. He had mentioned that there is a hole in the bucket. If you remember correctly the bucket is the nick name for Galactica and Pegasus was the Beast. Also Hello made the same comment to Adama. I really think he is more tied into the ship than anyone believes.
Now onto me and Tigh’s BOL theory. The two of us have been talking about this for what 2 years now. This week it was finally hit on by none other than Baltar. I honestly think this was a heave Baltar episode. I actually should have lead with this one but oh well. I am going with my crip sheet I have been working on as I watch and re watch the show. As you know I am writing with a broken wrist so I’m just a tad bit slow and it’s hard to type so it’s taking a bit longer than usual.
Now Baltar is preaching on the wireless about angels among us. They are guiding us etc. he is basically talking about his visions of head 6 and head Baltar. We also know other people have seen head people and even a head cat. Now this just verifies to me that they are in fact BOL or Angels. (I think they are the same thing myself.) Then Starbuck confronts him in the head about it. The whole time Baltar is seeing head 6. Is this a coincidence or is there something there. She told him her story and I don’t know if he believed her or was just intrigued but at any rate he cleaned off the dog tags and tested them. Now the look on his eye was crazy. His pupils just opened wide up like he was staring into the dark. (When exposed to dark they get big the light they get small.) Does this mean Starbuck is the dark one or is it just a mistake by the VFX people? I can’t wait to find out. I do know one thing he is closer to having a Christian belief of there being an eternal life even if it is in a whacked out way. This for him if proof positive for a scientist that someone has died and been resurrected and not that of a Cylon. (I kind of think he tested her to see if she was a Cylon. It only makes sense.)
Now the next thing with good old Baltar. His meeting with Caprica 6. I think it was interesting that she came to one of his sermons. Then when she told him he is just the same but she has changed. To me that sounds like a woman who is trying to convince herself that she is no longer in love with a man. I think she is still in love with him and we already know he is in love with her from Nattily I think her name was who are the POW on the Pegasus. Me thinks we have some fresh love in the air and we know from head 6 that she and Baltar can have a baby.
Now to bring this to my next part the reactions to Baltar’s speech after the funerals. Both Tigh and Ellen did a double take and Lee kept staring at Starbuck and Baltar. I think he truly believes it and I think that it took Ellen back as well as Tigh. As for Adama I think he honestly doesn’t care any more.
Now this brings me to the funerals. As you all noticed there were 3 different religious services going on for the funerals. All seemed to be OK with the other. Both Cylon and human together as one morning there losses. This seems to me to be like a coming together for the fleet and something that can heal the fleet. I don’t know if anyone has noticed but the 6 that was killed was killed saving the life of one of the knuckle draggers who was talking smack about the Cylons. Now he owes his life to a Cylon. Not only that but the big crack that lead to the big blow started right next to him as he was pissed off about the skin jobs and he was so wrapped up in his own anger he didn’t even see it. If he had he could have saved all the people killed that day. I think we will see more on this guy soon.
Now just a quick mention more on Tigh. When the boomer style Cylon died in sick bay she had mentioned the honor of meeting her father before she died. The last words she said were “there’s too much confusion”. Another line from along the watch tower. Tigh did catch that. I wonder if this is part of the Cylon code. It is what woke them all up, Hera did the notes as stars, the dying Cylon used it, head Starbuck Dad wrote it, and Starbuck thinking there is more too it. No way is this coincidence. Tigh also seems to be torn between his 2 families the Cylons and the Crew of Galactica. I think it really hit him when Ellen told him he has millions of children.
Now on to good old Boomer. I know what everyone thinks of her. She is the nastiest of the Cylons but I disagree. I think Cavil has been playing her against her programming and her scorn towards the Chief. She is still in love with the Chief and that is shown by her showing there house to Hera. When she showed that to Hera she actually created a bond with the girl and she knows what Hera is about to go through. I think she is having second thoughts on the whole thing and will end up doing the right thing in the end. I also thought it was cool seeing the old style raiders in the Cylon home. It does make me wonder what’s going on with it. We have seen 6 mention that they still have uses for that model (The old Centurions) yet Athena when she saw one in Razor said there weren’t any or that model left. Now we see the old raiders at the Cylon home. Does this mean we will see more old Centurions or are the skin jobs using them or something else?
Now one last thing and I have no way to prove it just a theory here. We know that Battlestar seems to follow the Mormon religion. I think we are also following something like Noah’s ark. According to theology Noah had some who were the beginning of each race on earth. (Black, white, red, yellow, brown.) Now we have seen all there races in the fleet and the fleet will end up being dwindled down a lot here soon. This would be an interesting story arc for the show. Noah’s ark is a space ship that saves his people. Just a thought with no proof what so ever. Yea I can be a cook sometimes.


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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2009, 08:01:51 PM »

Quote from: dfiredawg on March 09, 2009, 07:38:32 PM

Now one last thing and I have no way to prove it just a theory here. We know that Battlestar seems to follow the Mormon religion. I think we are also following something like Noah’s ark. According to theology Noah had some who were the beginning of each race on earth. (Black, white, red, yellow, brown.) Now we have seen all there races in the fleet and the fleet will end up being dwindled down a lot here soon. This would be an interesting story arc for the show. Noah’s ark is a space ship that saves his people. Just a thought with no proof what so ever. Yea I can be a cook sometimes.

While I can't speak to Mormon theology, I can speak to Lutheran theology. You're partially correct in that the descendants of Noah are credited with populating certain areas, however, the do not account for all peoples, just Eastern European (this is hotly debated) including Turks, African, and Semitic peoples.


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« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2009, 10:25:27 PM »

Nice catch about the Pegasus suicide mission in TOS and Galactica seeming to be going on a suicide mission. I hadn't thought about that. This is another case where RIS does something that TOS did twice to go with All of this has happened b4. The Pegasus sacrifice on New Caprica was the first one.


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« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2009, 10:37:15 PM »

Review is up fellas...real life just keeps delaying me, I apologize! Hope you enjoy it!


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« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2009, 12:53:23 AM »

Another excellent review. Thanks A-dog.


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« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2009, 11:12:32 AM »

This episode is just GREAT!
Action and darama and death, a lot of all in one episode.
I confess, when the hull breach was opened and the six was locked outside of the bulkheads I was about to cry! The same thing when Adama decided to stip Galactic of all equipment and to mount the weapons on civilian ships.

COMMENT: this decision maybe will bring to a very big trouble. There are continual conflicts in the fleet and without Galactica and with armed civilian ships the civilian will be able to kill each other and auto-annihilate what remains of the human race. The situation is gonna get dangerous


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