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« on: March 06, 2009, 09:16:58 PM »

http://www.startrekmovie.com/

This is looking better and better with each trailer that comes out.


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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009, 09:26:19 PM »

I got chills just watching it...awesomeness.


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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 05:14:29 PM »

With each trailer I see I get so much more stoked. One month to go and I can't wait! The scene of the Enterprise being built in dry dock is phenomenal...


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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 07:08:15 PM »

This movie's already a classic even before its release. Good to finally have a date to look forward to. It looks like one heck of a show. Thanks for the heads-up.


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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 01:53:51 AM »

Last time I was this excited for a upcoming new movie was Episode III back in 2005.

Well, besides Razor, The Plan etc. But those are obvious Tongue

I've always been a huge fan of Star Trek TNG, and just love the Star Trek universe. I never watched the original Star Trek because I cant stand the "fakeness" of old movies.

So I'm glad to see the re-birth of Star Trek. It's much like the re-birth of Battlestar Galactica, with the current technology and the things learned over decades of film making taking good but surpassed films and television to a new level.

I hope the movie is as good as the trailers make it out to be. I know trailers can be deceiving and movies with amazing trailers in the past have turned out to be horrible.

But I'm definitely putting faith into this one. It looks fantastic. It's also very similar to the Batman remake. The new Batman movies, much like the new Battlestar, take great stories and great lore, and make truly great television and film, while the originals are unwatchable compared to the new ones. At least for me.

The only exception to these remakes is Star Wars, for IMHO, the original Star Wars is 100 times better the those made 30 years later.

That proves that it IS possible to make time-less movies that become legacies and that technology isnt everything. But it's the exception and not the norm. Nearly all re-makes made with newer technology almost always put the original ones to shame. As I said, Batman and Battestar are very good examples.


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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2009, 01:33:51 AM »

TV Spot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkFYGE1LLgc


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« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2009, 09:02:49 PM »

I'm ready for this movie. I think I'm going to see it when my parents and in-laws are in for graduation. Gonna be fun times all around. Wink


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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2009, 02:11:47 AM »

I'm getting my tickets online tomorrow for Thursday.

I'm totally psyched to see this movie!

I havnt felt like this since Star Wars came to the Theaters...


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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2009, 07:48:34 AM »

Boy am I pissed...work ran 20 mins. late last night so I missed the last showing of ST! So I guess tonight is gonna have to be the night...whooo hooo!


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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2009, 04:09:53 PM »

My spoiler-free review that I posted on DarthMojo's Blog

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Short version of my review.

I'd give this movie 4.5 stars, and I'd expect the average to fall in that range, either 4 or 4.5 stars, some giving it 5s and the worst anyone I think should give this movie is 3.5 stars.

My overall impression is thus, a very good one. What I expected from the trailers and the hype came true, meaning, that JJ breathed new life into Star Trek, which anyone who has not been living under a rock and who does not live in self-denial will admit has been dying. JJ Abrams' Star Trek is pretty comparable to the incredible achievement of the new Batman Begins and Dark Knight movies, which have transformed, rejuvinated and re-launched the Batman franchise to heights it has never before seen. Granted I dont think the transformation was as drastic in the case of Star Trek as it was for Batman (I literally could barely watch the old Batman movies, but the Star Trek ones I can and love to watch, so it was not such a big of a jump for me personally).

Going a bit into the specifics, I thought by far the strongest point of this movie were the Visual Effects. I might be biased because I'm an aspiring VFX Artist who wants to specialize in Space VFX shots, and so that's what attracted me the most in this movie, and also because I'm posting on the Blog of an Emmy-winning VFX Artist, but honestly I can now count in one hand the number of movies and shows that have what I would call State-of-the-Art VFX. Right now the only 4 movies/shows that I put on a pedistal above all others as far as VFX are Episode III opening battle scene over Coruscant, JJ Abrams' Star Trek, Firefly and Battlestar Galactica. I feel the VFX and CG in these 4 pieces of work are by far the best to have ever graced the big or small screens, at least in the space ships/battles genre.

I noticed in Star Trek what I call "creative shots" were used BSG-style. What I mean is shots where the camera is constantly moving into, shots that are from original and creative angles etc. One of the things I'm learning is that lighting and camera angles/movements can make or break a shot. You could have the best model in the world, but if your camera angles and motion is mundane, and if your lighting sux, then your shot is going to be horrible.

I was most impressed by the sun lighting in this movie, many shots had that warm orange glow to the whole scene, and some of the planet shots were also bathed in orange glow it was great.

The scenes with the ships were very realistic because of the slow motion that really gave you the impression you were watching colossal space ships and not CG models.

I am not saying that Star Trek TNG, Voyager, DS9 and the shots of the movies to date where bad, but I think they were good for their time, and JJ Abram's Star Trek showed us what VFX can do in the Star Trek universe in 2009.

Ok, now enough about VFX Tongue

The second most impressive part of the movie to me was the Cast. I absolutely could connect with all of them, I thought the choices for such iconic and legendary characters such as Kirk and Spock were dead on. I did love the humor that was present throughout the movie. The actor who plays Kirk (yeah I know I'm bad, I'll learn his name soon enough dont worry) was perfect for the role. His blue eyes and his facial expressions just scream "Kirk". Our dear Cylar was also perfect for the role of Spock, again, just looking at his expression was enough, and his voice and tone were perfect I thought.

Now onto the parts that I thought could have been done better. My biggest disappointment was this feeling I got that things got a bit rushed and some things were hard to explain. Like the way Scotty got to join the Enterprise as well as the whole Captain and First Officer changes. I cant say more without spoiling, but let me just say it was all a bit weird for me to see Cadets of the Starfleet Academy get thrown into the field and be given commands of flag-ships.

The villain in the movie was really great. I loved his performance and that of his XO or second. I also loved the weapon they had and the scale of the devastation they could cause and the danger they posed.

All in all the storyline was certainly not bad, but it could have been a bit more deep. The ending was a bit cheesy, just a tad, reminded me of the end of A New Hope.

I will say with certainty that the favorite part of the movie were the first 20 to 30 minutes of it, but overall, I think for a Director and actors who were never really fans of Star Trek, they did the best job they could.

And after all, this was one man's vision of Star Trek. Like any other work of art dominated by one man's vision, there will almost always a large probability that that vision will not be understood or appreciated or liked by a great many other people.

Of course, I also believe that outstanding artwork is great no matter what. If it is a great piece of work, people will immediately recognize it. Some works end up being an instant success with just about anyone who sees it. YouTube videos are a great example. When I see a great fan-made CG animation on YouTube, or a great Fanvideo, it almost always has or ends up getting thousands of views and great ratings, while the mediocre ones just die off. So I certainly thing there is good and bad quality art work, even if it's by nature all subjective. It's not like science or engineering, when you discover something or build something, it's like 2 + 2, it either works or doesnt, it's either useful or it isnt, there is nothing subjective about it.

Anyways, to conclude, I think the movie was worthy of the name Star Trek, it could have been better (hence the 4.5 stars) and so was not perfect for me, but you can add this Trekkie to the list of people who are happy with it, and this review to the growing list of reviews that just rave about it.

It's true folks, JJ Abrams did it. Now go see the birth of Captain James Tiberious Kirk!

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2009, 04:52:02 PM »

The movie was absolutely delivered as promised! I felt myself grinning ear to ear as this movie progressed because I knew JJ had done it again! He took a failing franchise and totally gave it new life and new civilizations...it bol....oh sorry! Go see this movie! GO SEE THIS MOVIE!


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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2009, 02:05:03 AM »

Glad you liked it m8

I think it's one of those movies I'd probably go see twice at the theater Tongue


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« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 11:37:51 PM »

i saw the movie today and i have to say: its better than i expected it to be.
most of all: it featured that special star trek tos humor and thats a very good thing. the cast is very good, too. i never believed they could find new actors that match the old and loved actors. i was wrong. kirk, spock, uhura, sulu, scotty
(its simon peck, right? (british and scottish english is way cooler than american english (finally i have a reason to say that

) (many bracktes to close now (stupid comments dont make it better)))), bones... after you familiarized with the young faces (what took about 5 minutes) you really believed they are the younger versions of shatner, nimoy and so on. especially the one who plays bones gave me a "hey, thats really mccoy"-feeling.

i dont know if it was told before, but i like the reason why spock joined starfleet. vulcanian racism...strange thing, but cool idea.

maybe (i strongly believe) i had some... erm.. difficulties to see the upper part of the picture.. or the... *cough* cinema had parts of the picture cropped, but there was a bit too much "off-camera" and "shaky-camera" action going on for a trek movie. i think it was this forum where i charged the clean and steady trek-camera-movements, but this was a tad too much.

other than that: great entertainment. breathes some new life into an old and almost dead franchise.

guess i have to see it in a better cinema...*coughcough* again.

edit: did he say "...where NOONE has gone before"? equality finally reached the future! ha!


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